Dear Readers: As you know, The Shrine has always been at the front-line of the battle against ECO-TYRANNY. Last week, Left Coast Rebel (Tim Daniel) and I collaborated on his awesome piece –
Global warming lies, damn lies and easy rebuttals. We hoped to provide savvy tactics on how to engage eco-tyrannical global-warming proponents and spread the word on the Yes on 23! campaign. LCR’s piece uses references from a post I did, featuring Dr. Roger Cohen’s 3-point method of challenging the theology of man-made global warming.
Like the battle-hardened veteran of political forum discussions, I stayed around to handle the comments. It was a fire-fight with aggressive and nasty eco-activists.

I wanted to share with you some special moments, which highlight the effectiveness of the Cohen 3-Point Method. I hoped to also encourage my readers to chime into LCR’s article, as the more comments he gets, the better positioned his articles will be on The Daily Caller.
“The insulting and arrogant responses to this piece just show how effective it is,” Daniel said. “My first piece in this series didn’t spark this reaction, which tells me the Rebuttal piece hit a sore nerve. The environmental activists are clearly upset that is an easy-to-use guideline on how to challenge them. Actually, their remarks provide great examples for following the Cohen Method.”
1) The Global Warming Alarmist’s “Appeal to Authority”The eco-activists refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the 31,000 signatures on The Petition Project, the concerns of 266 experienced and distinguished physicists expressed in an American Physical Society Petition calling for a new assessment of man-made global warming theories, or the credentials of dozens of highly-placed climate science professional who signed a recent open letter to the UN Secretary General challenging the United Nations Climate Change Conference to produce convincing OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE for their claims of dangerous human-caused global warming. A classic response was from WaterMephit:
Wow! You’d think that any credible person would be embarrassed to cite a petition, who’s signatories include Ginger Spice, Hawkeye Pierce and Bozo the Clown. If that’s the best “evidence” that you can provide to dispel Global Warming, I don’t think the real scientists have anything to worry about.
A thorough check of The Petition Project shows that none of these fictional characters were listed.
Another proponent, karmakaze, tried to insinuate that the signatures of a bulk of those signers of The Petition Project had no meaning:
“Atmosphere, Earth, & Environment (3,805)”
“I) Atmospheric Science (112)
II) Climatology (39)
III) Meteorology (343)”
Karmakaze completely fails to note the detailed credentials in other fields germane to climate, chemistry, and environmental health — all of which go to the meat of the matter. These include such unrelated areas like geology (not too big a stretch to say geologist understand something about the Earth) and medicine (scientists trained in the functional and environmental requirements of human beings on the Earth). For example, I personally, I took 2 semesters in college on meteorology and climate history, and am sure other geology professionals met similar requirements.
2. Global Warming’s “Precautionary Principles” – Global warming alarmists typically ignore the economic ramifications of drastic legislative measures, and this was clearly the case here (another diamond of global warming wisdom from karmakaze):
I thought we were talking about climate science? When did this turn into a economics debate?
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Now, we have reached the part about which I have most concern. California citizen activists are struggling against an array of organizations and politicos that have financial interests in expanding government and restricting liberties: BOTH Gubernatorial candidates, venture capitalists in green jobs corporations wanting to diminish competition and force everyone to use their energy sources, and big government regulators who want more power and wealth for themselves.
And I thought environmental activists were for the “little people”. Not when there is tons of money to be made in Cap&Trade schemes! Here is what implementation of California’s Cap&Trade/Global Warming Solutions Act/AB-32 will cost:
… an average family cost of about $3,900 per year, a small business cost of about $50,000 per year and a total loss of output in the range of $180 billion in order to comply.
Sadly, the argument has gone beyond controlling Carbon Dioxide emissions! It seems the White House is teaming up with eco-tyrants around the nation to grab millions of acres of land via executive fiat under the “Great Outdoors Initiative“. Michelle Malkin has some details that are utterly chilling:
GOP Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah has released the complete Bureau of Lands Management memo outlining a stealth federal land lock-up plan covering an area the size of Colorado and Wyoming combined….BLM (Bureau of Land Managemen) dismisses criticism of the document by characterizing it merely as “brainstorming.” It’s become the standard alibi for Obama officials caught planning radical changes through regulatory means outside the legislative process.
Malkin also has a description of “listening sessions” that are filled with evidence that they were stacked and biased in favor of the anti-jobs, anti-growth enviromental radicals. As an extra bonus, the EPA is poised to regulate farm dust.
“It’s plain common sense, we don’t want to do anything detrimental,” said (Oklahoma) farmer Curtis Roberts. “If the dust is detrimental to us, it’s going to be to everybody. We’re not going to do anything to hurt ourselves or our farm.”
Roberts, a fourth generation farmer and rancher in Arcadia, said regulating dust in rural areas will hurt farmers’ harvest, cultivation and livelihood.
“Anytime you work ground, you’re going to have dust. I don’t know how they’ll regulate it,” Roberts said. “The regulations are going to put us down and keep us from doing things we need to be doing because of the EPA.”
The Daily Caller has another, related piece: EPA Regulations: A Step in the wrong direction. It doesn’t take too great a stretch of imagination to note that should the EPA possess these powers, then they could grant “exceptions” to certain farmers or producers — who would be allowed to work without the restrictions. Think that is nuts? Pelosi just arranged some FDA exceptions for a big-time Democrat donor for special use of a restricted drug.
3. The Alarmist “Pure Anger” Approach“ Finally, if the number of insults and vulgarities are any indication, Daniel’s piece clearly shows global-warming advocates are losing the day, big-time. Here some of the finer examples of the wit and wisdom of the global warming activists:
“Easy rebuttals” my butt. “Retarded rebuttals” more like.
If you fall for this crap, you’re a bigger idiot than he is.
Because you are a propagandist or a fool.
I wanted to thank W.C. Varones for his gracious comments about my previous pieces on this subject. Finally, in two somewhat related posts, Beers with Demo shows how important honest and effective journalism can be when getting out the truth (something that has been sadly lacking in American coverage of Global Warming). The Scratching Post covers the California IOU situation, that goes to the state of the state I have noted above:
The government owns GM. Ford is a private company. If you can use IOUs to buy government products, but nothing else, then Ford is at a significant disadvantage. This example is Federal, but it illustrates the entangling nature of fascism. Working with the government becomes the preferred means of doing business when the government grows in all directions. Anyone left outside has all kinds of problems, from regulatory ones to being able to be paid.
If I were the legislature in California, I’d pass this thing right away. After that, I’d propose all kinds of new regulations that required fees so that those IOUs would never have to be paid in real cash because they’d all be coming back in the form of mandatory payments for the new regulations and fees.
SHHHH! KT! Don’t give ‘em any ideas!
UPDATE: Read How the CA Controller’s Race Could Change Everything in Big Government.
Unfortunately, Republicans have not worked hard enough to expose the Bell California/John Chaing type stories. One reason is that Republicans around the country do not value holding the State Controller offices nearly enough. That office has the power to audit every phase of state government and to expose government waste at every turn. Indeed, John Chiang’s office knew (or should have known) of the Bell, California spending scandal and did nothing about it until the LA Times, of all outfits, made it a story.
All of which brings us to Tony Strickland. He may well be the ideal candidate to start this Republican Controller’s tide. As an Assembly member, he stood alone and sued then Governor Gray Davis because Davis refused to disclose the details of the awful energy deals he signed. Those terrible deals were costing Californians billions and until Strickland stood alone – Davis was getting away with it. Strickland won his lawsuit, forced disclosure of contracts, and with that you can trace not only the end of those rip-off Enron energy contracts but also the end of Gray Davis’ political career. California desperately needs a Controller like that today as opposed to John Chaing who is resisting government reform at every turn.
Just so you know, as a geologist, I had to take courses involved in learning paleoclimate, as well as lots of chemistry courses.
Stratigraphy & other courses involve learning about past climates as well as mechanisms for changing from one type to another.
So really geologists know all about the past climate & their mechanisms for change.
Looking at a rock means looking at a past climate.
Joecool: Welcome to the Shrine, and adding an additional perspective on the matter.
Thanks for the link, Leslie!
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You are correct! The Ecco-Mobsters have co-opted environmental Science. There is/was an unspoken covenant between Lay-people and the practitioners of Science on Society’s behalf. The Scientists dispassionately compiles and distills the data, and Society charts how Humanity integrates that knowledge into the fabric of our lives. Stepping away from the the climate issue, and just looking at the actions & behavior of those the public would normally trust, what I see is the entire issue ENCAPSULATED by Collectivist & Socio-Political agendas, forcing me conclude that powerful elements have sized upon these issues as a way/method to sequester more than just our Carbon.
I frankly don’t trust them…it’s a condition they have brought upon themselves with the series of duplicitous actions regarding how they established their so-called consensus. The “Warmest” community then further aggravates and “poisons the well” by calling us “Flat Earthers” and “Paleo-intellects”. Setting aside their elitist disdain, I have found myself ample evidence that the deconstruction of our carbon based society, along the radical time-table advocated by the likes of: Hansen, Mann, Cueller, et al…poses a greater risk of war, famine, and governmental tyranny, than the disruption and risk imposed by having to move 150 yards inland, when lower Manhattan floods in the next 200-300 years…
Temple of Mut, instigator of a Hot Air comment-a-lanche at BwD. Thanks again, Leslie!
LOL! I am glad to see my contribution is appreciated!
Well, Whitman is a rino but rino’s can be influence look at John MCcain recently. Brown would probably be worst since he placed the wind mills in the desert back in the early 1980′s. The high tech firms tend to be liberal but they have the old mercantle approach where the government favors some business interest over others. The nown-libs unfortunately didn’t get involved with the high tech industries 20 years ago or even some the alternative enegry firms, so of course they reflect the liberal agenda.